This kind of reminds me of the girls who like the bad boys. Over the years I have noticed that bad boys attract bad girls, sometimes very good looking bad girls. Then us men sit back and wonder what this beautiful woman sees in that loser of a guy. I will tell you what they see, they see someone that acts like they do. A man that will treat them like a lady is of no interest to them. A man that will party with them nightly is of great interest to them. Plan for a future, nope, the future is now. A job is something you do so you can go party. These people never go far in life.

I think Berthold makes a good point about guys going to Russia and treating mail order brides different than they do here, trying to be someone you normally aren't. Now, how many of you guys went to Russia and had great manners with your dates and when you came back to America and dated you treated the women the same way you treated the mail order brides. I know I did, and I liked it. Some of the women liked it and some didn't care a bit. When you do all those wonderful little things that can make mail order brides think you are a God. You better plan on doing it here. If all your efforts are appreciated its quite enjoyable to me. Russia can change some men for the better. I find myself dressing better when I go out, my manners are now polished and I no longer let myself gain 15 pounds in the winter when I am not working. Oh, and I keep my house cleaner too.

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No wussy ass-kissing

You will never really attract a women by ass kissing her.
Women are attracted to bad boys because they excite them. The bad boy thing hits mail order brides below the conscious belt.
Women are not attracted to boring needy ass kissers.
You can be nice. Just dont be to much of a nice guy!

Be a man

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:) As Freud said, "Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar." :smokin: Also, "Woman, what does she want?" :confused:

Then there is the old line about assuming. "When you assume, you make an ass of you and me." [Foreign speakers, its "ass" as in donkey, "u" as in "you" and "me" as in the obvious.] A bit childish perhaps. :p

Still, it always amazes me when the bad boy's girlfriend brings me several thousand dollars to get his "ass" out of the corral, I mean jail. :lol: :chuckle: :lol: :rolleyes: :lol: